Employer Testimonials
Jews for Racial and Economic Justice has worked with Domestic Workers
United since 2002 to obtain basic worker rights for domestic workers
through their
Shalom Bayit campaign.
Joining DWU's marches and
other actions, they have worked to raise awareness and to change policy
in New York City and State. The four testimonies included below by
Donna Schneiderman and her daughter, Gayle Kirshenbaum and Judith
Trachtenberg, all employers of domestic workers, were read during vigils
and other actions over the past few years.
Donna Schneiderman
Donna Schneiderman
is one of the co-chairs of JFREJ's Shalom Bayit Campaign. She gave this
speech at press conferences throughout the domestic workers' justice
campaign in 2009.
My name is Donna Schneiderman and I'm a member of Jews for Racial and
Economic Justice, or JFREJ. I am an employer in JFREJ's Employers for
Justice Network, a group of 100 employers of domestic workers who have
improved their employment practices and taken action in support of the
Domestic Workers' Bill of Rights. I'm here in Albany today lobbying
with Domestic Workers for the Domestic Worker's Bill of Rights to show
my commitment to fair employment practices. I believe that passage of
the Domestic Workers' Bill of Rights will help bring respect to an
industry where respect is long overdue.
Over 10 years ago, through a recommendation of a colleague and good
friend, I had the opportunity to hire a loving, experienced and
dedicated caregiver to watch my six-month-old daughter three days a week
while I worked part-time. I am fortunate and grateful that the same
caregiver is still looking after my now 11-year-old and her
eight-year-old sister on the days I am working. Over the 10-plus years
of this solid mutually-respectful relationship, my husband and I believe
we have been fair in how we've paid our domestic worker, how we've
determined days off, vacation pay and year-end bonuses, etc. Yet even
after all these years, I am not entirely sure that what we deem to be
fair is in fact fair. How can we be sure without standards?
When I was a new mom, before the days of online social networking, we
relied on the park bench chatter to determine the "going rate" for
babysitters—according to the more-experienced "experts" (moms with
toddlers), the rate depended on the number of weekly hours, multiple
kids, housework involved, years of experience, all sorts of factors. I
found most of my fellow-new-moms were reluctant to discuss what they
were paying for fear of seeming cheap on one end; and on the other end,
concerned that others would say they were driving up the wages. Here we
were, sleep-deprived and anxious new moms—clueless in many ways as to
what it takes to be a caregiver—chatting about what seemed fair or
not.
These days, the park bench has moved to the Internet, with its
numerous online groups for new moms. One of the most common questions
posted at these forums is, "How much should I pay my babysitter?,"
followed by, "How much vacation time is expected for my nanny?," or
similar versions of these questions. New moms are asking about bonus
pay, days off, sick time and yes, even about healthcare coverage. From
my experiences and these online discussions, it's clear that many
employers want to treat their domestic workers fairly, but don't know
exactly how. A Domestic Workers' Bill of Rights would help set
standards and define guidelines for everyone.
There is another point that I have been trying to crystallize since I
started getting involved with the Domestic Workers' Bill of Rights. I
have noted an absence in voices from the caregivers on the park bench
and online at the Internet forums. In fact, when I've tried to discuss
with our caregiver whether or not the wages my husband and I determined
to be fair are indeed fair, even after a long respectful relationship, I
still sense her discomfort in being frank with me. And as a result, I
am truly not sure if I am being fair to her. Discussing wages is a
difficult conversation for any employee to have with an employer. It is
far more difficult for those who have worked in a field where there is
so much employer-discretion involved and where domestic work gets very
little respect. As a result, domestic workers often internalize this
powerlessness and become less able to advocate for themselves in their
workplaces. Organizing with their fellow domestic workers, and winning
the establishment of standards in the Domestic Workers' Bill of Rights,
will greatly improve their ability to speak up for what is fair. And as
a result, their voices will be included on the park benches and chat
groups.
I believe that we teach our children how to respect others by, in
fact, respecting others. The standards that would result from a
Domestic Workers' Bill of Rights would help create a foundation of
respect in our homes, which in turn benefits our children. With clearly
defined standards in place, there is a baseline of understanding between
employer and employee on difficult-to-discuss topics such as wages and
days off. As a result of clearer and more respectful communication, the
relationship is nurtured and respect is strengthened. Our children
ultimately benefit the most when they observe a congenial and trusting
relationship between parents and caregiver. They are given the sense
that their parents value the care being provided to them, and they learn
that all work and all people deserve respect. Standards defined by the
Domestic Workers' Bill of Rights will help us have honest and direct
conversations with our domestic workers, allowing us to demonstrate
respect in our homes.
Most of all, I am here speaking out on the need for a Domestic
Workers' Bill of Rights because domestic work is the work that makes
other work possible. Our domestic worker makes it possible for me to
work with peace of mind and an easy heart. This is something only a
parent who has left a child in someone else's care can understand. When
you trust that while you are at work your child will be cared for in a
loving way, that decisions will be made for her well-being with good
judgment, and that she will be played with, read to, sung to and spoken
to in a kind manner—then and only then are you able to focus on your
work. I have benefited from this level of professional childcare. It is
in honor and appreciation of all that my caregiver has given my family
over these past 10 years that I am here. And I know there are thousands
of other caregivers out there in New York who deserve the same honor and
appreciation. I see them everyday and so does everyone here. These are
hard-working, dedicated individuals who deserve the right to be
respected like any other professional deserves.
On behalf of Employers for Justice; Jews for Racial and Economic
Justice; and in solidarity with Domestic Workers United, I am here to
tell the New York State legislature that now is the time to pass a
Domestic Workers' Bill of Rights.
Thank you.
Donna Schneiderman's daughter gave the following testimony for
the Children's Vigil in 2008, an event bringing together children of
domestic workers and the children domestic workers take care of,
organized to highlight the issue as a family issue.
[I have been cared for by a] babysitter for ten years—from the time I
was six months old! [My babysitter] has helped me with my homework and
one project she helped me
with I got an A+ for! She has taught me how to fold laundry and she has
helped me embroider and paint. When I was a toddler she played the
"Beach Game" with me—a silly game I invented when I was little.
My parents respect [my babysitter] and treat her like she's part of our family.
Many times she and my mom have long conversations before she leaves.
Both my parents rely on [my babysitter] so that they can go to work knowing that
my sister and I are being taken care of. The babysitting profession is
important because it helps make other jobs happen.
I support domestic workers' rights because I want babysitters like
[mine] to have paid sick days and vacation time so that they can take
care of themselves when they're sick and spend time with family when
they want to.
I'm here speaking about [my babysitter] because I don't think it's fair that
some babysitters aren't treated fairly. I think it's important for kids
to know about domestic workers' rights because a lot of the kids I know
have babysitters and they should be aware of how some babysitters are
being treated.
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